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I STILL have NO IDEA what this Russia issue is

what's the actual accusation? that russia is controlling US ...
''"'''"'''"'
  05/18/17
They HACKED are election!
Get Thee To The Rapery
  05/18/17
nothing. in november it was THEY HACKED INDIVIDUAL FUCKING ...
beckersted terrace
  05/18/17
And in October they specifically said it was UNPOSSIBLE that...
ddr
  05/18/17
'memba? i memba.
beckersted terrace
  05/18/17
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Trump ordered Russia to use its vast nation-state resources ...
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Russia hacked Hillary's schedule so that she made no stops i...
Get Thee To The Rapery
  05/18/17
lol
beckersted terrace
  05/18/17
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mike tyson
  05/18/17
49d chess holy shit
50ft Coulter Building Wall & Making Mexico Pay
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Julius Caesar's Mistress
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charlie brown
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wgwagman8
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boner_police
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Martin Prince
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Stephen K. Bannon
  05/18/17
Lol
chilmata
  05/18/17
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attornethereum
  05/18/17
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The Meanest Yay!
  05/18/17
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Jeff Blauser
  05/18/17
They "colluded," alright! Now stop asking questio...
Henry Aaron
  05/18/17
I can't imagine what it's like to be this dense
john tsinah
  05/18/17
ok then explain it
Mance Rayder
  05/18/17
explain exactly what the allegation is and follow through on...
''"'''"'''"'
  05/18/17
listen, listen. they appointed a special prosecutor charged...
beckersted terrace
  05/18/17
(Guy who will never answer the OP)
Insane right-wing gun nut
  05/18/17
Libs make huge deal over nonexistent collusion between trump...
Julius Caesar's Mistress
  05/18/17
pretty succinct summary.
beckersted terrace
  05/18/17
...
LTDanCaffey
  05/18/17
I would just add that the Russians did likely attempt to inf...
To Be Unfair
  05/18/17
cr. but all the world powers try to influence each others...
beckersted terrace
  05/18/17
I have no idea what heemerhawing means, but Russia's attempt...
To Be Unfair
  05/18/17
just like...heming and hawing. bitching and moaning. being...
beckersted terrace
  05/18/17
More overt than this, for example: http://www.nationalobserv...
How would OU score 56 points, dipshit?
  05/18/17
That's entirely different.
To Be Unfair
  05/18/17
It's an overt attempt to influence another country's electio...
How would OU score 56 points, dipshit?
  05/18/17
average person sees the Prime Minister's statement, clearly ...
To Be Unfair
  05/18/17
What does it matter how Hillary's emails were leaked? It's...
Insane right-wing gun nut
  05/18/17
I agree that it doesn't change the importance of the informa...
To Be Unfair
  05/18/17
I'm not. If Trump committed an act that was illegal burn hi...
Insane right-wing gun nut
  05/18/17
It matters how Hillary's emails were leaked because they dis...
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  05/18/17
After all, that is the job of the American MSM
TubbyRaymond
  05/18/17
Non sequitur.
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  05/18/17
(Billy Bush)
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Buck "The Club" Paulette
  05/18/17
Wasn't it traditionally the job of the media to investigate ...
LTDanCaffey
  05/18/17
idk because CNN told me it's illegal to look at the informat...
.;:..;:;.:.;.,,,.,.:,.;;,;;;..;,
  05/18/17
>Wasn't it traditionally the job of the media to investig...
To Be Unfair
  05/18/17
But didn't the election cycle and the whole Flynn thing show...
LTDanCaffey
  05/18/17
The NYT broke the Clinton email server story initially. Does...
To Be Unfair
  05/18/17
They covered it after the Benghazi investigstion found the e...
LTDanCaffey
  05/18/17
I guarantee you NYT isn't running a story sourced by only on...
To Be Unfair
  05/18/17
That's a pretty dangerous guarantee in the age of Buzzfeed.
LTDanCaffey
  05/18/17
I didn't say anything about Buzzfeed, man.
To Be Unfair
  05/18/17
I know, but all journalism is moving toward the Buzzfeed mod...
LTDanCaffey
  05/18/17
What you said is true, but i dont feel like thats even worth...
Julius Caesar's Mistress
  05/18/17
and we've done it for decades but Russia is apparently bette...
crazy pills
  05/18/17
It's also made all the more hilarious coming on the heels of...
Get Thee To The Rapery
  05/18/17
My whole point is that if Trumpmos would have just admitted ...
To Be Unfair
  05/18/17
Doubtful. Libs and the media have gone crazy.
Julius Caesar's Mistress
  05/18/17
The entire Russia thing is so that libs can delegitimize Tru...
Get Thee To The Rapery
  05/18/17
Trump just had to say "they tried to influence the elec...
To Be Unfair
  05/18/17
It doesn't matter if it was reasonable. Any admission like t...
Get Thee To The Rapery
  05/18/17
you were never going to convince EVERYONE that Trump didn't ...
To Be Unfair
  05/18/17
Sure buddy
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lol if you believe that
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Buck "The Club" Paulette
  05/18/17
I'm glad we're finally all on the same page
Nintendo $witch
  05/18/17
agreed
michael doodikoff
  05/18/17
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MacGuffin
.,.,..,.,.,,.,,.,.,,
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Russia has an interest in destabilizing and eroding western ...
Martin Prince
  05/18/17
how did Russia leak damaging information about Hillary?
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its the standard BS explanation that I've heard countless ti...
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they hacked Podesta's email account? the one he secured with...
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link to false information? and link to how they flooded the ...
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no, you don't
kenny
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tcr
The Meanest Yay!
  05/18/17
link to any proof that was done by Russian government hacker...
kenny
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No. The problem is that libs are causing a huge crisis witho...
TubbyRaymond
  05/18/17
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  05/18/17
This. Also, let's for the sake of argument assume it was th...
The Meanest Yay!
  05/18/17
http://abcnews.go.com/International/reasonable-doubt-russian...
loans originated on or after July 1, 2018,
  05/18/17
tbf I think libs have done more to destabilize and erode wes...
Mance Rayder
  05/18/17
I think that's part of it. It's about instability, and libs ...
Martin Prince
  05/18/17
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The Meanest Yay!
  05/18/17
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To Be Unfair
  05/18/17
"They knew that Donald Trump is a temperamental barely ...
crazy pills
  05/18/17
that guy is a histrionic shithead. not worth taking seriousl...
kenny
  05/18/17
Putin and Russia don't give a shit about American institutio...
Are you dumb?
  05/18/17
You dumb, bro? Russia wanted Trump to win because our establ...
Perry Pierogi
  05/18/17
neither do libs
""'''"'"'
  05/18/17
Sure they do. Trump bad, needs to be impeached. He um, had...
The Meanest Yay!
  05/18/17
Putin knew trump would be more willing to let Putin run roug...
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If in an alternate universe libs were going buckwild accusin...
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  05/18/17


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Date: May 18th, 2017 10:30 AM
Author: ''"'''"'''"'


what's the actual accusation? that russia is controlling US policy through trump? i don't understand

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3618419&forum_id=2#33334997)



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Date: May 18th, 2017 10:31 AM
Author: Get Thee To The Rapery

They HACKED are election!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3618419&forum_id=2#33335003)



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Date: May 18th, 2017 10:31 AM
Author: beckersted terrace

nothing. in november it was THEY HACKED INDIVIDUAL FUCKING VOTING MACHINES...now it's "trump's friends fucking russian hookers at handjo spas on route 46 in jersey"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3618419&forum_id=2#33335004)



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Date: May 18th, 2017 10:33 AM
Author: ddr

And in October they specifically said it was UNPOSSIBLE that are election could be hacked after Trump refused to concede an election ... that hadn't yet taken place.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3618419&forum_id=2#33335013)



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Date: May 18th, 2017 10:33 AM
Author: beckersted terrace

'memba? i memba.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3618419&forum_id=2#33335020)



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Date: May 18th, 2017 10:37 AM
Author: .,,,,,,....,.,..,,,,.,.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3618419&forum_id=2#33335037)



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Date: May 18th, 2017 10:33 AM
Author: .;:..;:;.:.;.,,,.,.:,.;;,;;;..;,


Trump ordered Russia to use its vast nation-state resources to hack into Podesta's highly encrypted and military-grade email account to release false information about the DNC in order to influence rust-belt voters

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3618419&forum_id=2#33335014)



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Date: May 18th, 2017 10:34 AM
Author: Get Thee To The Rapery

Russia hacked Hillary's schedule so that she made no stops in Wisconsin during the election

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3618419&forum_id=2#33335021)



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Date: May 18th, 2017 10:34 AM
Author: beckersted terrace

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3618419&forum_id=2#33335023)



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Date: May 18th, 2017 10:37 AM
Author: .,,,,,,....,.,..,,,,.,.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3618419&forum_id=2#33335039)



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Date: May 18th, 2017 10:40 AM
Author: mike tyson (la cam)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3618419&forum_id=2#33335052)



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Date: May 18th, 2017 10:41 AM
Author: 50ft Coulter Building Wall & Making Mexico Pay

49d chess holy shit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3618419&forum_id=2#33335054)



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Date: May 18th, 2017 10:41 AM
Author: Julius Caesar's Mistress



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3618419&forum_id=2#33335056)



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Date: May 18th, 2017 10:45 AM
Author: charlie brown (*unzips*)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3618419&forum_id=2#33335076)



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Date: May 18th, 2017 10:59 AM
Author: wgwagman8 (rap parody)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3618419&forum_id=2#33335189)



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Date: May 18th, 2017 11:39 AM
Author: boner_police



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3618419&forum_id=2#33335481)



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Date: May 18th, 2017 11:42 AM
Author: Martin Prince (Bad (or sick) guy!)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3618419&forum_id=2#33335503)



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Date: May 18th, 2017 11:47 AM
Author: Stephen K. Bannon



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3618419&forum_id=2#33335542)



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Date: May 18th, 2017 11:51 AM
Author: chilmata (poasting from a flawless horse stance)

Lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3618419&forum_id=2#33335581)



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Date: May 18th, 2017 12:27 PM
Author: attornethereum



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3618419&forum_id=2#33335923)



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Date: May 18th, 2017 12:44 PM
Author: The Meanest Yay!



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3618419&forum_id=2#33336107)



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Date: May 18th, 2017 6:37 PM
Author: Jeff Blauser



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3618419&forum_id=2#33338938)



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Date: May 18th, 2017 10:36 AM
Author: Henry Aaron

They "colluded," alright! Now stop asking questions!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3618419&forum_id=2#33335032)



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Date: May 18th, 2017 10:37 AM
Author: john tsinah

I can't imagine what it's like to be this dense

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3618419&forum_id=2#33335038)



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Date: May 18th, 2017 10:42 AM
Author: Mance Rayder (/s/ Mance Rayder)

ok then explain it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3618419&forum_id=2#33335060)



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Date: May 18th, 2017 10:46 AM
Author: ''"'''"'''"'


explain exactly what the allegation is and follow through on describing the negative consequences to US citizens.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3618419&forum_id=2#33335079)



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Date: May 18th, 2017 10:49 AM
Author: beckersted terrace

listen, listen. they appointed a special prosecutor charged to investigate ďany links and/or coordination between the Russian government and individuals associated with the campaign".

so basically putin helping the trump campaign before he was president. links and coordination. i'm sure they're going to find a lot of information because putin seems sloppy like that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3618419&forum_id=2#33335100)



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Date: May 18th, 2017 11:26 AM
Author: Insane right-wing gun nut

(Guy who will never answer the OP)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3618419&forum_id=2#33335381)



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Date: May 18th, 2017 10:39 AM
Author: Julius Caesar's Mistress

Libs make huge deal over nonexistent collusion between trumps team and russia

Media blows things out of proportion

Trump self pwns repeatedly bc hes a fucking moron

Situation spirals out of control as all sides handle the situation in the worst way possible

This Russia thing is a perfect example of how fucked our country is. Both major parties, our president, and the media are all SHIT PURE SHIT

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3618419&forum_id=2#33335041)



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Date: May 18th, 2017 10:39 AM
Author: beckersted terrace

pretty succinct summary.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3618419&forum_id=2#33335047)



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Date: May 18th, 2017 10:52 AM
Author: LTDanCaffey



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3618419&forum_id=2#33335131)



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Date: May 18th, 2017 10:48 AM
Author: To Be Unfair

I would just add that the Russians did likely attempt to influence the election, like they have with every major election across Europe recently, but it was in no way coordinated with the Trump campaign. Russia is just trying to expose liberal democracy fraudlies and doing an outstanding job of it at the moment.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3618419&forum_id=2#33335095)



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Date: May 18th, 2017 10:49 AM
Author: beckersted terrace

cr.

but all the world powers try to influence each others elections. this heemerhawing is fucking retarded.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3618419&forum_id=2#33335101)



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Date: May 18th, 2017 10:51 AM
Author: To Be Unfair

I have no idea what heemerhawing means, but Russia's attempts are a lot more overt and brazen than what other countries have done in the past. It's been working though.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3618419&forum_id=2#33335123)



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Date: May 18th, 2017 10:52 AM
Author: beckersted terrace

just like...heming and hawing. bitching and moaning. being lib.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3618419&forum_id=2#33335128)



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Date: May 18th, 2017 11:01 AM
Author: How would OU score 56 points, dipshit?

More overt than this, for example: http://www.nationalobserver.com/2016/10/14/news/visiting-french-pm-endorses-clinton-us-vote-says-world-rejected-trump

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3618419&forum_id=2#33335198)



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Date: May 18th, 2017 11:09 AM
Author: To Be Unfair

That's entirely different.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3618419&forum_id=2#33335243)



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Date: May 18th, 2017 11:11 AM
Author: How would OU score 56 points, dipshit?

It's an overt attempt to influence another country's election, no?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3618419&forum_id=2#33335261)



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Date: May 18th, 2017 11:17 AM
Author: To Be Unfair

average person sees the Prime Minister's statement, clearly knows it comes from the PM, and can evaluate his endorsement in context

average person sees the email leaks and hears bad things about Clinton, immediately unclear who was behind the leaks, Trump supporters deny it came from Russian, etc. The average voter doesn't have the same motivation to evaluate the information with the full context.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3618419&forum_id=2#33335309)



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Date: May 18th, 2017 11:28 AM
Author: Insane right-wing gun nut

What does it matter how Hillary's emails were leaked? It's not like Russia altered them. Shouldn't the electorate know the DNC rigged the primaries?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3618419&forum_id=2#33335404)



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Date: May 18th, 2017 11:30 AM
Author: To Be Unfair

I agree that it doesn't change the importance of the information. BUT we should all call out Russia's meddling for what it is at the same time. Let the public decide after getting the entire story.

At the same time, don't bitch about anonymous sources and leaking if its true, if you're going to make that argument.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3618419&forum_id=2#33335421)



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Date: May 18th, 2017 11:33 AM
Author: Insane right-wing gun nut

I'm not. If Trump committed an act that was illegal burn him down. I just don't believe the medias fraud lies.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3618419&forum_id=2#33335447)



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Date: May 18th, 2017 11:51 AM
Author: ..,,.,,.,.,.,.,,.,,.,...,.,


It matters how Hillary's emails were leaked because they disclosed shitty, otherwise private information about one candidate but not the other.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3618419&forum_id=2#33335582)



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Date: May 18th, 2017 11:54 AM
Author: TubbyRaymond

After all, that is the job of the American MSM

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3618419&forum_id=2#33335614)



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Date: May 18th, 2017 12:07 PM
Author: ..,,.,,.,.,.,.,,.,,.,...,.,


Non sequitur.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3618419&forum_id=2#33335729)



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Date: May 18th, 2017 11:56 AM
Author: .,.,,,.,,,..,.,.,:,:,,...,::,...,:,.,..:.:.,:.::,.


(Billy Bush)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3618419&forum_id=2#33335637)



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Date: May 18th, 2017 10:58 AM
Author: Buck "The Club" Paulette



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3618419&forum_id=2#33335181)



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Date: May 18th, 2017 10:55 AM
Author: LTDanCaffey

Wasn't it traditionally the job of the media to investigate and expose the fraudlies of our government and leaders?

Is there anything that Russia has exposed that turned out to be false?

In essence, aren't they just doing the job of the press before they were partisan hacks?

I'm not trying to be snarky or sarcastic with these questions, I'm just generally curious.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3618419&forum_id=2#33335148)



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Date: May 18th, 2017 10:59 AM
Author: .;:..;:;.:.;.,,,.,.:,.;;,;;;..;,


idk because CNN told me it's illegal to look at the information that Russia exposed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3618419&forum_id=2#33335187)



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Date: May 18th, 2017 11:07 AM
Author: To Be Unfair

>Wasn't it traditionally the job of the media to investigate and expose the fraudlies of our government and leaders?

The MSM has been doing this and you guys won't stop bitching about "anonymous sources" as if that hasn't been a thing for the past 50 years. You all accused the media of being partisan hacks when the original Flynn leaks happened, but isn't that the kind of thing the American public deserves to know?

But yes it is the job of the media and yes they don't engage in that type of behavior as much as they used.

BUT the transparency argument doesn't work when Russia CLEARLY favors certain candidates over others and only releases information designed to damage one side. Trumpmos could have made this entire thing go away pretty easily if they would have just admitted that Russia meddled in the election and did it to delegitimize our democracy--which everyone with at least 3 brain cells acknowledges was their intention from the beginning. The minute Trumpmos tried to morally justify all this shit is when you guys opened yourself up to attacks of collusion.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3618419&forum_id=2#33335237)



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Date: May 18th, 2017 11:19 AM
Author: LTDanCaffey

But didn't the election cycle and the whole Flynn thing show that the media only does their job with regard to the side they disagree with?

If not for Russia leaks, the public would have been completely in the dark about the DNC literally colluding with Her Campaign.

As for the anonnous sources - my beef is that there is no corroboration. At least during Watergate the WAPO corroborated their leaks from Deep Throat with real investigation and coroboration. Now they just fucking print anything an anonymous "current or former official" tells them.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3618419&forum_id=2#33335321)



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Date: May 18th, 2017 11:29 AM
Author: To Be Unfair

The NYT broke the Clinton email server story initially. Does that not count as "doing their job"?

If multiple sources independently tell you the same thing, does that not count as corroboration? I don't think any of these stories recently haven't had at least multiple people verify them.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3618419&forum_id=2#33335407)



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Date: May 18th, 2017 11:33 AM
Author: LTDanCaffey

They covered it after the Benghazi investigstion found the evidence. The same committees that they and every other lib called show trials.

Not sure on number of sources - my understanding is that the most inflammatory stories have been sourced by very few individuals, if that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3618419&forum_id=2#33335450)



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Date: May 18th, 2017 11:41 AM
Author: To Be Unfair

I guarantee you NYT isn't running a story sourced by only one anonymous source

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3618419&forum_id=2#33335498)



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Date: May 18th, 2017 11:58 AM
Author: LTDanCaffey

That's a pretty dangerous guarantee in the age of Buzzfeed.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3618419&forum_id=2#33335655)



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Date: May 18th, 2017 12:10 PM
Author: To Be Unfair

I didn't say anything about Buzzfeed, man.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3618419&forum_id=2#33335756)



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Date: May 18th, 2017 12:50 PM
Author: LTDanCaffey

I know, but all journalism is moving toward the Buzzfeed model: lean staff, shoddy standards, speed of release. The NYT isn't immune from this effect.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3618419&forum_id=2#33336144)



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Date: May 18th, 2017 11:01 AM
Author: Julius Caesar's Mistress

What you said is true, but i dont feel like thats even worth mentioning. Every superpower tries to influence elections. Its ridiculous that libs/the media are in hysterics about this.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3618419&forum_id=2#33335202)



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Date: May 18th, 2017 11:05 AM
Author: crazy pills

and we've done it for decades but Russia is apparently better at it now or it's easier with the Internet

of course we should look into it full (I doubt our own intel was unaware of it, it happens all the time) but since it affected someone on their side now it's the worst thing ever



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3618419&forum_id=2#33335224)



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Date: May 18th, 2017 11:07 AM
Author: Get Thee To The Rapery

It's also made all the more hilarious coming on the heels of all the "it's not possible to hack the election" histrionics from libs after the debates

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3618419&forum_id=2#33335230)



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Date: May 18th, 2017 11:10 AM
Author: To Be Unfair

My whole point is that if Trumpmos would have just admitted what I just said above from the beginning then we would have avoided all of this mess in the first place.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3618419&forum_id=2#33335253)



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Date: May 18th, 2017 11:18 AM
Author: Julius Caesar's Mistress

Doubtful. Libs and the media have gone crazy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3618419&forum_id=2#33335316)



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Date: May 18th, 2017 11:22 AM
Author: Get Thee To The Rapery

The entire Russia thing is so that libs can delegitimize Trump's presidency. Now imagine what they would have said and how they would have reacted if Trump had said "yes, it looks like Russia tried to influence the election." they would literally argue that his win was invalidated and Hillary is the "rightful" winner of the election.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3618419&forum_id=2#33335348)



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Date: May 18th, 2017 11:34 AM
Author: To Be Unfair

Trump just had to say "they tried to influence the election and they shouldn't have". It would have made Trump look reasonable. Trump admin's impulse to go on the attack gave the appearance they had something to hide.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3618419&forum_id=2#33335456)



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Date: May 18th, 2017 11:36 AM
Author: Get Thee To The Rapery

It doesn't matter if it was reasonable. Any admission like that and libs will say Russia DID influence the election and therefore it is null and void. It doesn't matter how ridiculous that is, that would become the story. Nothing Trump said would have made this go away because it is virtually impossible to prove a negative.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3618419&forum_id=2#33335469)



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Date: May 18th, 2017 11:43 AM
Author: To Be Unfair

you were never going to convince EVERYONE that Trump didn't collude, but you never going to EVERYONE that Obama was born in the US either. Trump's actions caused enough doubt that now the GOP has to go along with it. Being reasonable would have at least make it an untenable mainstream position, which is all you can ask for lmao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3618419&forum_id=2#33335510)



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Date: May 18th, 2017 12:13 PM
Author: .,,,,,,....,.,..,,,,.,.

Sure buddy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3618419&forum_id=2#33335785)



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Date: May 18th, 2017 12:02 PM
Author: .,.,,,.,,,..,.,.,:,:,,...,::,...,:,.,..:.:.,:.::,.


lol if you believe that

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3618419&forum_id=2#33335690)



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Date: May 18th, 2017 10:58 AM
Author: Buck "The Club" Paulette



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3618419&forum_id=2#33335177)



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Date: May 18th, 2017 11:01 AM
Author: Nintendo $witch (¡Adíos, Ameríca!)

I'm glad we're finally all on the same page

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3618419&forum_id=2#33335196)



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Date: May 18th, 2017 11:37 AM
Author: michael doodikoff

agreed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3618419&forum_id=2#33335475)



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Date: May 18th, 2017 10:49 AM
Author: .,.,..,.,.,,.,,.,.,,

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MacGuffin

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3618419&forum_id=2#33335099)



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Date: May 18th, 2017 11:40 AM
Author: Martin Prince (Bad (or sick) guy!)

Russia has an interest in destabilizing and eroding western institutions. They knew that Donald Trump is a temperamental barely literate reality TV show host who would damage US institutions and run the country poorly. They supported his candidacy through leaking damaging information about Hillary (who sucks -- I'm not defending her) and by paying trolls to foment support for him online. Their investment has paid dividends beyond their wildest expectations.

I don't think there was direct collusion. He was a useful idiot and Putin exploited that.

God damn it we needed Jim Webb.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3618419&forum_id=2#33335493)



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Date: May 18th, 2017 11:42 AM
Author: .;:..;:;.:.;.,,,.,.:,.;;,;;;..;,


how did Russia leak damaging information about Hillary?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3618419&forum_id=2#33335508)



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Date: May 18th, 2017 11:43 AM
Author: ,.,..,.,,.,..,.,,.,..,.,



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3618419&forum_id=2#33335513)



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Date: May 18th, 2017 11:45 AM
Author: .;:..;:;.:.;.,,,.,.:,.;;,;;;..;,


its the standard BS explanation that I've heard countless times but when you unpack it, the explanation becomes pretty absurd

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3618419&forum_id=2#33335526)



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Date: May 18th, 2017 11:46 AM
Author: ,.,..,.,,.,..,.,,.,..,.,



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3618419&forum_id=2#33335535)



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Date: May 18th, 2017 11:47 AM
Author: .;:..;:;.:.;.,,,.,.:,.;;,;;;..;,


they hacked Podesta's email account? the one he secured with a password that any 6 year old can crack?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3618419&forum_id=2#33335548)



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Date: May 18th, 2017 11:48 AM
Author: ,.,..,.,,.,..,.,,.,..,.,



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3618419&forum_id=2#33335555)



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Date: May 18th, 2017 11:50 AM
Author: .;:..;:;.:.;.,,,.,.:,.;;,;;;..;,


link to false information? and link to how they flooded the media with it? is this similar to the Soros-funded ShariaBlue group that employs people to flood message boards with DNC talking points?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3618419&forum_id=2#33335575)



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Date: May 18th, 2017 11:51 AM
Author: ,.,..,.,,.,..,.,,.,..,.,



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3618419&forum_id=2#33335586)



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Date: May 18th, 2017 12:08 PM
Author: kenny

no, you don't

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3618419&forum_id=2#33335737)



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Date: May 18th, 2017 12:16 PM
Author: ,.,..,.,,.,..,.,,.,..,.,



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3618419&forum_id=2#33335808)



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Date: May 18th, 2017 12:46 PM
Author: The Meanest Yay!

tcr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3618419&forum_id=2#33336115)



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Date: May 18th, 2017 11:48 AM
Author: kenny

link to any proof that was done by Russian government hackers?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3618419&forum_id=2#33335556)



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Date: May 18th, 2017 11:50 AM
Author: ,.,..,.,,.,..,.,,.,..,.,



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3618419&forum_id=2#33335572)



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Date: May 18th, 2017 11:54 AM
Author: TubbyRaymond

No. The problem is that libs are causing a huge crisis without people having any sense of what is at the core of that crisis. Did the Russians actually hack? If so did they make up information about Hillary? (Most important) Did Trump somehow bless (I don't even know what the allegation here is)this "hacking"? In the end who is really at fault here-- every country tries to influence the leadership of other countries and, knowing that, does it make sense to get caught with your fucking pants down by allowing yourself to get hacked?



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3618419&forum_id=2#33335610)



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Date: May 18th, 2017 12:15 PM
Author: .,,,,,,....,.,..,,,,.,.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3618419&forum_id=2#33335794)



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Date: May 18th, 2017 12:48 PM
Author: The Meanest Yay!

This. Also, let's for the sake of argument assume it was the Russians (which, I'm not at all convinced it is) and in fact Russian intelligence. If US intelligence thought it could easily hack senior Russian party leadership and exploit that info to their benefit, are we saying that we definitely wouldn't do that? Because I'm pretty sure we would do exactly that.

This is why anyone with half a brain takes significant steps to secure their data.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3618419&forum_id=2#33336128)



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Date: May 18th, 2017 12:49 PM
Author: loans originated on or after July 1, 2018,

http://abcnews.go.com/International/reasonable-doubt-russians-hacked-dnc-analyst/story?id=40863292

Use of cyrillic keyboards, not working on Russian holidays

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3618419&forum_id=2#33336136)



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Date: May 18th, 2017 11:43 AM
Author: Mance Rayder (/s/ Mance Rayder)

tbf I think libs have done more to destabilize and erode western institutions since Trump's inauguration. but maybe Putin knew that having Trump in office would cause them to freak out and throw the country under the bus.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3618419&forum_id=2#33335512)



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Date: May 18th, 2017 11:49 AM
Author: Martin Prince (Bad (or sick) guy!)

I think that's part of it. It's about instability, and libs rioting adds to that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3618419&forum_id=2#33335561)



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Date: May 18th, 2017 12:51 PM
Author: The Meanest Yay!



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3618419&forum_id=2#33336153)



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Date: May 18th, 2017 11:44 AM
Author: To Be Unfair



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3618419&forum_id=2#33335521)



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Date: May 18th, 2017 11:52 AM
Author: crazy pills

"They knew that Donald Trump is a temperamental barely literate reality TV show host who would damage US institutions and run the country poorly."

that's just flame that Trump will run the country into the ground and "damage its institutions" whatever that means

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3618419&forum_id=2#33335588)



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Date: May 18th, 2017 12:08 PM
Author: kenny

that guy is a histrionic shithead. not worth taking seriously tbh

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3618419&forum_id=2#33335742)



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Date: May 18th, 2017 6:51 PM
Author: Are you dumb?

Putin and Russia don't give a shit about American institutions. They just didn't like Hillary, its that simple

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3618419&forum_id=2#33339027)



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Date: May 18th, 2017 12:04 PM
Author: Perry Pierogi

You dumb, bro? Russia wanted Trump to win because our establishment would torch the country rather than let him lead. As you're seeing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3618419&forum_id=2#33335706)



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Date: May 18th, 2017 12:47 PM
Author: ""'''"'"'


neither do libs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3618419&forum_id=2#33336119)



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Date: May 18th, 2017 12:52 PM
Author: The Meanest Yay!

Sure they do. Trump bad, needs to be impeached. He um, had something to do with Russia. Russia has become super bad because unlike during Communism (when we liked them) now they have a right winger in charge and they're Christian. After we're done with Trump, Clinton becomes FIRST FEMALE POTUS, right? RIGHT?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3618419&forum_id=2#33336161)



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Date: May 18th, 2017 1:37 PM
Author: .....................:......:::.......;...........


Putin knew trump would be more willing to let Putin run roughshod over Eastern Europe and more likely to support lifting sanctions on Russia. Putin goons got in touch with Trump goons and let them know they had damaging info on both parties and would release the DNC/Podesta shit if Trump agreed to the above approaches. He did (see the change to the RNC platform right after the Russian stooge visited with Sessions at the convention) and there you go.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3618419&forum_id=2#33336544)



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Date: May 18th, 2017 6:56 PM
Author: sociologist major demanding more womyn in stem

If in an alternate universe libs were going buckwild accusing Trumps administration of colluding with Turkey, Flynn taking money and directly affecting an anti-ISIS operation would have been the smoking gun. But they picked Russia instead. And they don't seem to care about Turkey

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3618419&forum_id=2#33339056)