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CR to buy a "starter" boat, like a Sea Ray 190?

I know, boats are a terrible investment, but would you rathe...
grand arbre
  06/13/18
To your original question, I don't hate a 19ft. dual console...
Muscadine wine
  06/13/18
explain this for people who don't own boats
Baron Mark von Ironside
  06/13/18
inboard: http://cdn.channelblade.com/boat_graphics/electroni...
Muscadine wine
  06/13/18
thx. yes i know the difference between the two types of e...
Baron Mark von Ironside
  06/13/18
There are plenty of very expensive boats that are outboard. ...
Muscadine wine
  06/13/18
ah -- yes i meant the cruiser yachts
Baron Mark von Ironside
  06/13/18
And stuff like this, which I mentioned below: https://spe...
Royall Jenkins
  06/13/18
ty
Muscadine wine
  06/13/18
Sorry, brother. I wasn't trying to lecture you. Most of what...
Royall Jenkins
  06/13/18
I could talk boats all day and I'm always happy to listen to...
Muscadine wine
  06/13/18
I don't really know my shit. Just enough to be dangerous. ...
Royall Jenkins
  06/13/18
Yea, those are really sweet. There's a lawyer in charleston...
Muscadine wine
  06/13/18
I used to roll around in a little fiberglass 16ft boat (or t...
Drunkard
  06/14/18
I've got a 12' aluminum Starcraft and a 6hp Evinrude. Both a...
From a Bloomington Bathhouse on the Hill
  06/14/18
As for why almost all large, fancy yachts are inboard, this ...
Royall Jenkins
  06/13/18
ty
Muscadine wine
  06/13/18
They're also generally not going to be used for the type of ...
1920 North Side Mick Gangster
  06/14/18
If you want to get pedantic, the boat in your first link has...
Royall Jenkins
  06/13/18
I wouldn't buy a SeaRay, because my primary use for a boat i...
IronMonkey
  06/13/18
I don’t disagree with you, but there are plenty of boat guy...
Muscadine wine
  06/13/18
Vespa is great
beta cuck provider
  06/13/18
Vroom vroom
Muscadine wine
  06/13/18
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Titus Pullo
  06/13/18
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Muscadine wine
  06/13/18
Sea ray is just fine.
beta cuck provider
  06/13/18
Boats are terrible.
animeboi
  06/13/18
?
ESL TM..,..;;.
  06/13/18
Sundancer 350 or bust
Baron Mark von Ironside
  06/13/18
My ideal boat: https://www.boattrader.com/listing/2017-scout...
Muscadine wine
  06/13/18
If you want to throw money away just give it to me instead
cornhusker
  06/13/18
a boat isn't an investment. there's nothing wrong with getti...
Baron Mark von Ironside
  06/13/18
i wouldnt have any storage costs, bc I would trailer it in a...
grand arbre
  06/13/18
"not feeling obligated to use something just because yo...
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  06/13/18
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Taylor Swift was not a hobby she was a lifestyle
  06/13/18
couldn't you rent one of these for a few weekends each summe...
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  06/13/18
Unless you are serious fisherd00d, titcr.
animeboi
  06/13/18
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A Jurisprudence is Performed
  06/13/18
Best two days in a boat-owners life: *The day he buys it ...
Get Thee To The Rapery
  06/13/18
A boat is absolute financial suicide and the dumbest thing y...
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  06/13/18
Seems kind of dumb to live on a lake and not be able to enjo...
Dick Trickle, RIP
  06/13/18
yeah that's the rub. sure, its an expensive and unnecessary ...
grand arbre
  06/13/18
You have to do something with your time that you don't work....
Muscadine wine
  06/13/18
amen
IronMonkey
  06/13/18
dumb to live on a lake period.
cornhusker
  06/13/18
What? Lake living is 180^180
Dick Trickle, RIP
  06/13/18
tiNtcr
cornhusker
  06/13/18
Enjoy your 750 sf MFH apartment!
Dick Trickle, RIP
  06/13/18
*are country hovel
cornhusker
  06/13/18
why is it financial suicide? just treat it like other dis...
Baron Mark von Ironside
  06/13/18
tcr
ESL TM..,..;;.
  06/13/18
Bust Out Another Thousand
Diane Rehm talking dirty
  06/13/18
...
Taylor Swift was not a hobby she was a lifestyle
  06/13/18
Not for a small boat like that.
~~(>' ' )>
  06/13/18
Everyone I know with a boat is now bankrupt.
'''''''"'"
  06/13/18
I saw a guy just like you buy a boat and he died.
nugget play
  06/13/18
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killa cam
  06/13/18
I am not a fan of the smaller Sea Rays, and I really don't l...
Royall Jenkins
  06/13/18
Whoa whoa whoa there. Let me help you, I love boats.
Muscadine wine
  06/13/18
Buy used.
Jim_Kelly
  06/13/18
This is almost always the credited response
IronMonkey
  06/13/18
There's a lot to be said for not buying a used boat. The co...
Muscadine wine
  06/13/18
If he ends up getting a center console type boat, I think th...
Royall Jenkins
  06/13/18
Yea, I service my engine once a year, but I'm in the minorit...
Muscadine wine
  06/13/18
how should you maintain boat engines? motorcycle guy here
alias.php
  06/13/18
Take the boat to a boat mechanic, preferably someone with Ya...
Muscadine wine
  06/13/18
One of the big differences between boat engines and motorcyc...
Royall Jenkins
  06/13/18
I got lucky buying a cheap used boat with an old motoer that...
IronMonkey
  06/13/18
Sounds sweet. What kind of boat? Also, kicker motors are...
Muscadine wine
  06/13/18
16.5 ft riveted aluminum Smokercraft Spitfire with an old Ya...
IronMonkey
  06/13/18
Nice find. I bet you have a blast in that thing.
Muscadine wine
  06/13/18
It's fun. Good for lake/inshore/lower river fishing and cra...
IronMonkey
  06/13/18
What are you gonna use the boat for? Just pleasure cruising?...
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  06/13/18
OK, a couple things: 1. Budget 10% of the cost of the bo...
Muscadine wine
  06/13/18
I knew Yamaha had a huge lead at one point on the competitio...
Royall Jenkins
  06/13/18
Suzuki and Mercury have gotten better, but Yamaha still make...
Muscadine wine
  06/13/18
I've heard some bad things about Suzuki recently. Hondas ar...
IronMonkey
  06/13/18
They’re all better than Johnsons,, a.k.a. Black anchors
Muscadine wine
  06/13/18
Lastly, gas efficiency is a giant deal, I cannot tell you ho...
Muscadine wine
  06/13/18
Especially if you are not storing your boat at home.
Royall Jenkins
  06/13/18
These are the kind of things that make boats more expensive ...
Muscadine wine
  06/13/18
tyft
grand arbre
  06/13/18
180 ty for this scholarship
bowlcut autist
  06/13/18
no problem
Muscadine wine
  06/13/18
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Baron Mark von Ironside
  06/13/18
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InTheZone
  06/14/18
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Taylor Swift was not a hobby she was a lifestyle
  06/13/18
They're fun, but not so good for when you want to relax.
~~(>' ' )>
  06/13/18
Just get a used motor boat or fishing boat and keep it at yo...
and when i started to squeeze the bar brother
  06/13/18
zo is retarded as usual if you know anything about boat r...
Non sequitur
  06/13/18
Agreed. And if you want to get all XO with this, there are w...
Royall Jenkins
  06/13/18
I love owning a boat, but they definitely have high money pi...
IronMonkey
  06/13/18
As Muscadine Wine and I hinted at above, one of the absolute...
Royall Jenkins
  06/13/18
Yea, one thing I didn't mention is that you really should ha...
Muscadine wine
  06/13/18
OP here, i regularly tow my legal files and stuff to court b...
grand arbre
  06/13/18
If driving a truck is wrong, I don't want to be right.
Muscadine wine
  06/13/18
Yeah, that's one reason why I went with a small aluminum boa...
IronMonkey
  06/13/18
:(
SPACE FORCE
  06/13/18
???
IronMonkey
  06/13/18
Oh yeah. I keep my boat on a trailer. I'd love to have it ...
IronMonkey
  06/13/18
I have a shared dock in my neighborhood that I can keep my b...
Muscadine wine
  06/13/18
I keep my boat docked on the lake, but I also have a trailer...
Royall Jenkins
  06/13/18
Mooring fees? lol are you going to swim out to your boat? ...
Muscadine wine
  06/13/18
I think he means moorage fees at a marina.
IronMonkey
  06/13/18
I thought he meant this: https://www.dnr.wa.gov/sites/def...
Muscadine wine
  06/13/18
I've actually thought about putting one of those in near my ...
IronMonkey
  06/13/18
yes
Non sequitur
  06/13/18
>> lol @ the poa who said they dont like feeling oblig...
Baron Mark von Ironside
  06/13/18
lmao really gunning for :D's MFE title nobody knows jack ...
1920 North Side Mick Gangster
  06/14/18
Buy used.
~~(>' ' )>
  06/13/18
https://charleston.craigslist.org/boa/d/1992-hydra-sport-200...
Muscadine wine
  06/13/18
I'm a fresh water man.
~~(>' ' )>
  06/13/18
i always lol at how attractive the wives are in every one of...
Baron Mark von Ironside
  06/13/18
This guy is probably just a covert marketing campaign by the...
IronMonkey
  06/13/18
180 but where's the original Captain?
Baron Mark von Ironside
  06/13/18
Do you think I can make it big in porn product placement?
~~(>' ' )>
  06/13/18
There is a tiny bit of truth to those adds. I live a couple ...
Royall Jenkins
  06/13/18
OFS, though a lot of that is just the affluence of the peopl...
Baron Mark von Ironside
  06/13/18
OP, is your reason for getting a boat just so you can take a...
Dick Trickle, RIP
  06/13/18
no i live three hundred yards from the bay and there is a la...
grand arbre
  06/13/18
One of the few regrets in life I have was not buying a boat ...
Muscadine wine
  06/13/18
Because of the implication?
Dick Trickle, RIP
  06/13/18
It's not dark, you're misunderstanding me.
Muscadine wine
  06/13/18
I would never say no, bro.
Dick Trickle, RIP
  06/13/18
You look around, all you see it the open ocean, I mean where...
Muscadine wine
  06/13/18
So you're saying there's danger?
Dick Trickle, RIP
  06/13/18
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dE-nfzcUiPk
biglaw associate asking if link is worksafe @ 11pm
  06/13/18
classic
IronMonkey
  06/13/18
ROFL
Dick Trickle, RIP
  06/13/18
LOL, I love that video. I was behind that boat when it happe...
Royall Jenkins
  06/13/18
not flame?
IronMonkey
  06/13/18
Not flame, brother. I kind of feel bad for the guy. He wa...
Royall Jenkins
  06/13/18
Smells like whatever the chill fratty wasp equivalent of duc...
mothergentle caresser
  06/13/18
Yuengling? Sperry Topsiders?
Muscadine wine
  06/13/18
Bearnaise sauce? Cocktail sauce?
IronMonkey
  06/13/18
Banana Boat?
Dick Trickle, RIP
  06/13/18
you ought to buy a boat
this nigga eating memes!
  06/13/18
...
Royall Jenkins
  06/13/18
To summarize this thread: buy a boat.
Muscadine wine
  06/13/18
https://austin.craigslist.org/boa/d/ft-houseboat/6602914999....
~~(>' ' )>
  06/13/18


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Date: June 13th, 2018 9:20 AM
Author: grand arbre

I know, boats are a terrible investment, but would you rather have the money in a bank?

http://www.searay.com/page.aspx/pageid/160944/pmid/366046/SPX-190.aspx?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIxJy7ot3Q2wIVyV6GCh188Q7BEAAYASAAEgKnqPD_BwE

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000970&forum_id=2#36236589)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 1:39 PM
Author: Muscadine wine

To your original question, I don't hate a 19ft. dual console, but dude, DO NOT buy an inboard motor if you're going to put that boat in salt water

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000970&forum_id=2#36238376)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 2:56 PM
Author: Baron Mark von Ironside

explain this for people who don't own boats

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000970&forum_id=2#36238927)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 3:02 PM
Author: Muscadine wine

inboard: http://cdn.channelblade.com/boat_graphics/electronic_brochure/company84003/366046_p_t_640x480_image01.jpg

outboard:http://www.boatersresources.com/img.php?t=2&s=t&id=4582288

With the motor on the inside, it takes a lot more to maintain it. Anything that salt water regularly touches gets destroyed. Outboards are easier to clean & maintain, i.e. they work much better.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000970&forum_id=2#36238976)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 3:09 PM
Author: Baron Mark von Ironside

thx.

yes i know the difference between the two types of engines. i was just curious as to why you made that statement since all the fancy boats are inboard

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000970&forum_id=2#36239045)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 3:16 PM
Author: Muscadine wine

There are plenty of very expensive boats that are outboard. For instance: https://www.boattrader.com/listing/2018-scout-420-lxf-103301932/?refSource=standard%20listing

A cool million.

But yes, larger yachts are inboard. I cannot explain to you why that is.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000970&forum_id=2#36239098)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 3:21 PM
Author: Baron Mark von Ironside

ah -- yes i meant the cruiser yachts

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000970&forum_id=2#36239132)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 3:31 PM
Author: Royall Jenkins

And stuff like this, which I mentioned below:

https://speedonthewater.net/images/2017_Images/phoenix32xpr/phoenix32xpr-03.jpg

Until the mid-80s, 2-stroke (think dirt bike engines) outboard motors were the pinnacle of performance boat engines, but with the widespread introduction of EFI to marine engines, widespread access to better quality fuel, the ever increasing size of boats, and changing preferences of boaters (the 2-stroke outboards were loud, smokey, stunk, and took up valuable space on the back of the boat where many people prefer for there to be a swim platform), automotive based marine engines took the lead.

However, as Muscadine Wine pointed out, outboard engines, most of which are now 4-stroke engines comparable to automotive engines, still are excellent for saltwater applications and boats that cannot accommodate a large engine bay and/or the weight of a V-8 engine. However, with the switch over to 4-stroke engines, outboard engines do not have the same insane power output relative to size that they once had.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000970&forum_id=2#36239205)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 3:49 PM
Author: Muscadine wine

ty

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000970&forum_id=2#36239329)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 3:52 PM
Author: Royall Jenkins

Sorry, brother. I wasn't trying to lecture you. Most of what I wrote was for other people with less experience with this shit. If I were just talking to you, I could have conveyed the ideas in all of my posts in a couple sentences.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000970&forum_id=2#36239350)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 3:53 PM
Author: Muscadine wine

I could talk boats all day and I'm always happy to listen to people who really know their shit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000970&forum_id=2#36239358)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 3:56 PM
Author: Royall Jenkins

I don't really know my shit. Just enough to be dangerous.

Once I get more time, I really want to buy an old Chris Craft cruiser and spend a couple years completely restoring it. Something like this in pristine condition would be sweet as fuck:

http://www.woodyboater.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/Cruiser.jpg

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000970&forum_id=2#36239381)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 3:58 PM
Author: Muscadine wine

Yea, those are really sweet. There's a lawyer in charleston who has something like this, the damn thing is like 50 ft., teak all throughout, and just beautiful. Amazing boat.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000970&forum_id=2#36239393)



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Date: June 14th, 2018 1:21 AM
Author: Drunkard

I used to roll around in a little fiberglass 16ft boat (or thereabouts) with a 60s era 100hp Evinrude.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ASxT7D-03pE

This was the motor.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000970&forum_id=2#36242740)



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Date: June 14th, 2018 1:37 AM
Author: From a Bloomington Bathhouse on the Hill (height bort first poaster)

I've got a 12' aluminum Starcraft and a 6hp Evinrude. Both are family items that date to the 60's. I'll never sell either

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000970&forum_id=2#36242803)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 3:37 PM
Author: Royall Jenkins

As for why almost all large, fancy yachts are inboard, this is due to practically all of them (I suppose this depends on your definition of large and fancy) are powered by one or (often) more diesel engines. Those large, heavy diesels cannot be placed at the extreme tail end of the boat and must be positioned further up the boat's beam.

Further, because of a diesel engine's lower RPM operating range, they require much larger propellers (the size and pitch of the propeller function somewhat similar to the rear-end gears in a car). An inboard engine arrangement is necessary to accommodate large propellers. Last, large propellers also are beneficial when it comes to low speed maneuverability, which is critical for large cruisers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000970&forum_id=2#36239237)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 3:40 PM
Author: Muscadine wine

ty

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000970&forum_id=2#36239255)



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Date: June 14th, 2018 1:45 AM
Author: 1920 North Side Mick Gangster (Dead ringer for Family Guy's Mort Goldman minus a hundred pounds)

They're also generally not going to be used for the type of speeding that high-end boats used only for hardcore fishing will be. Dudes who fish in tournaments with quad outboards are zooming around from spot to spot and need to have the ability to go out as far as possible within the timeframe the tourney allows. They are pushing their engines way, way harder than your standard boat owner (even someone who fishes offshore more casually), and these boats are built with the expectation that the engines will be blown at some point and can be easily replaced. Cramming 1300+HP in a sport-fishing sized boat (even a relatively large one) is just not something you can do easily with an inboard setup.

In the case of more modest-size boats outboards make sense just because a) they're cheaper, and (more importantly) b) it allows for much more usable space in the boat, which is extremely noticeable for <30 ft boats. That's a big deal as the price rises dramatically for marginal increases in size. If you're putting lots and lots hours on the boat diesels generally hold up better, but you end up with a much smaller boat for the amount of money.

For people with enough money to spend on a bigger boat (over mid-30s or so) they're going to use frequently or drive long distances but won't be PUSHING IT TO THE LIMIT to go 100 miles as quickly as possible to find the fish, inboard diesels are the way to go. Generally a nicer ride, nicer looking boat, cheaper fuel costs offset maintenance since any large boat is going to guzzle. A dude dropping 1M on a hatteras is probably paying someone to do periodic maintenance required of inboards anyway, so he benefits from the durability + cheaper fuel cost for making long or frequent runs. If you're buying a more modest boat and will only be putting hundreds of miles on it a year outboards are the way to go since they're cheaper to work on for small issues (which will come up) and allow you way more usable size for the buck.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000970&forum_id=2#36242825)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 3:21 PM
Author: Royall Jenkins

If you want to get pedantic, the boat in your first link has a stern drive, which is also referred to as an inboard/outboard.

An inboard has the engine located in the boat, with a long propulsion shaft exiting the bottom of the hull, such as this: https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-e_aSmgo1DXk/Uf1R87TYaLI/AAAAAAAACco/NEfV-2HSHvQ/s1600/inboard_motors.JPG

This is a good discussion of the differences: http://www.hoffmasters.com/power_stern.html

With all of that said, there is enough fuzziness when it comes to terminology that if some prick tries to correct you for referring to a stern drive boat as an inboard (such as I am doing), you should feel free to tell them to to fuck off.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000970&forum_id=2#36239136)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 2:05 PM
Author: IronMonkey

I wouldn't buy a SeaRay, because my primary use for a boat is fishing, but I think buying a starter boat is a great idea. Get a used one on Craigslist. If you barely use it after a few years, you can sell it for about the same price you paid.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000970&forum_id=2#36238548)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 2:07 PM
Author: Muscadine wine

I don’t disagree with you, but there are plenty of boat guys who think of Saeray as the pink Vespa of boats

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000970&forum_id=2#36238573)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 2:08 PM
Author: beta cuck provider

Vespa is great

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000970&forum_id=2#36238584)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 2:11 PM
Author: Muscadine wine

Vroom vroom

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000970&forum_id=2#36238609)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 2:54 PM
Author: Titus Pullo



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000970&forum_id=2#36238918)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 3:34 PM
Author: Muscadine wine



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000970&forum_id=2#36239219)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 9:23 AM
Author: beta cuck provider

Sea ray is just fine.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000970&forum_id=2#36236606)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 9:24 AM
Author: animeboi

Boats are terrible.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000970&forum_id=2#36236613)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 9:39 AM
Author: ESL TM..,..;;.

?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000970&forum_id=2#36236684)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 9:48 AM
Author: Baron Mark von Ironside

Sundancer 350 or bust

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000970&forum_id=2#36236760)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 2:51 PM
Author: Muscadine wine

My ideal boat: https://www.boattrader.com/listing/2017-scout-350-lxf-103316672/?refSource=standard%20listing



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000970&forum_id=2#36238893)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 9:49 AM
Author: cornhusker

If you want to throw money away just give it to me instead

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000970&forum_id=2#36236769)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 9:57 AM
Author: Baron Mark von Ironside

a boat isn't an investment. there's nothing wrong with getting a boat, so long as you understand that it's discretionary spend, but multiple boat owners have told me that given the monthly operating spend (whether it's used or not), they feel pressure to use the boat pretty much every nice weekend in order to get their moneys worth. that would get annoying to me.

i think for that very reason i'd prefer to split a boat with 3-4 other families. you split the purchase price so you don't need a loan and then you split the monthly operating cost and you pay for your own gas. you could rotate weeks/weekends or whatever.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000970&forum_id=2#36236821)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 10:14 AM
Author: grand arbre

i wouldnt have any storage costs, bc I would trailer it in a garage where I live, about two miles from a launch on Biscayne Bay.

But yeah, the purchase cost would be sunk.

I just wonder if I ought not be penny-pinching because DEATH will come and fuck it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000970&forum_id=2#36236928)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 3:23 PM
Author: .,,..,..,.,.,:,,..::,,..,:,..,.:,.,..:.,:.::,.


"not feeling obligated to use something just because you have it" would be a good add to the upper class tells thread

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000970&forum_id=2#36239146)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 9:50 AM
Author: Taylor Swift was not a hobby she was a lifestyle



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000970&forum_id=2#36236774)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 9:52 AM
Author: ..,..,..,...,,,...,..,.,,.,..,.,,


couldn't you rent one of these for a few weekends each summer?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000970&forum_id=2#36236786)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 9:54 AM
Author: animeboi

Unless you are serious fisherd00d, titcr.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000970&forum_id=2#36236802)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 10:11 AM
Author: A Jurisprudence is Performed



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000970&forum_id=2#36236907)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 10:12 AM
Author: Get Thee To The Rapery

Best two days in a boat-owners life:

*The day he buys it

*The day he sells it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000970&forum_id=2#36236913)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 10:18 AM
Author: ,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,..,..,:,.,.:.:.,:.::,.


A boat is absolute financial suicide and the dumbest thing you can buy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000970&forum_id=2#36236967)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 10:19 AM
Author: Dick Trickle, RIP

Seems kind of dumb to live on a lake and not be able to enjoy it in your boat.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000970&forum_id=2#36236977)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 10:20 AM
Author: grand arbre

yeah that's the rub. sure, its an expensive and unnecessary thing. But the alternative is NOT doing it, and living with 30k more, but not boating.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000970&forum_id=2#36236985)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 1:38 PM
Author: Muscadine wine

You have to do something with your time that you don't work. I spend my time on the water fucking with fish

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000970&forum_id=2#36238363)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 2:06 PM
Author: IronMonkey

amen

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000970&forum_id=2#36238564)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 1:33 PM
Author: cornhusker

dumb to live on a lake period.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000970&forum_id=2#36238330)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 1:36 PM
Author: Dick Trickle, RIP

What? Lake living is 180^180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000970&forum_id=2#36238344)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 3:46 PM
Author: cornhusker

tiNtcr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000970&forum_id=2#36239294)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 3:51 PM
Author: Dick Trickle, RIP

Enjoy your 750 sf MFH apartment!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000970&forum_id=2#36239346)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 4:10 PM
Author: cornhusker

*are country hovel

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000970&forum_id=2#36239478)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 10:27 AM
Author: Baron Mark von Ironside

why is it financial suicide?

just treat it like other discretionary spending and keep it reasonable.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000970&forum_id=2#36237033)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 10:28 AM
Author: ESL TM..,..;;.

tcr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000970&forum_id=2#36237052)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 10:35 AM
Author: Diane Rehm talking dirty (/dev/null)

Bust Out Another Thousand

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000970&forum_id=2#36237108)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 2:03 PM
Author: Taylor Swift was not a hobby she was a lifestyle



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000970&forum_id=2#36238537)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 2:46 PM
Author: ~~(>' ' )>

Not for a small boat like that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000970&forum_id=2#36238845)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 10:40 AM
Author: '''''''"'"

Everyone I know with a boat is now bankrupt.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000970&forum_id=2#36237143)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 10:41 AM
Author: nugget play

I saw a guy just like you buy a boat and he died.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000970&forum_id=2#36237148)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 10:48 AM
Author: killa cam (ggtp)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000970&forum_id=2#36237183)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 1:13 PM
Author: Royall Jenkins

I am not a fan of the smaller Sea Rays, and I really don't like what Sea Ray has done with their interiors on their larger cruisers.

Formula offers much better bang for your buck in a smaller bowrider, though I believe the smallest boat they make is 24ft.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000970&forum_id=2#36238140)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 1:17 PM
Author: Muscadine wine

Whoa whoa whoa there. Let me help you, I love boats.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000970&forum_id=2#36238183)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 1:18 PM
Author: Jim_Kelly

Buy used.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000970&forum_id=2#36238199)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 2:07 PM
Author: IronMonkey

This is almost always the credited response

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000970&forum_id=2#36238570)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 2:34 PM
Author: Muscadine wine

There's a lot to be said for not buying a used boat. The costs to repair a boat can be excessive, and getting a new boat with an extended warranty on a motor is not an awful idea.

Yea, you can get something decent for 15k instead of 30k, but every time you go to the shop it will cost you 500-2k, and that shit adds up quickly, especially if you have an older motor that's been used in salt water.

I know a guy who though he had a great deal getting a 19 foot seapro for 10k, and he has sunk at least 5k in repairs into it over the last few years.

Really, the true bummer is that you don't know your boat is broken until you turn the key in the water, and that's the end of your day if it doesn't work. Also, if you're in the ocean and you break down, that's a life threatening situation.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000970&forum_id=2#36238739)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 2:37 PM
Author: Royall Jenkins

If he ends up getting a center console type boat, I think the ideal purchase would be a used boat without engines and buy new engines. I have absolutely zero trust in boat owners to properly maintain and operate boat engines. For whatever reason, all common sense seems to go out the door when it comes to maintaining and operating boats.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000970&forum_id=2#36238759)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 2:41 PM
Author: Muscadine wine

Yea, I service my engine once a year, but I'm in the minority. Service is expensive and some boat owners just don't want to do it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000970&forum_id=2#36238782)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 3:15 PM
Author: alias.php

how should you maintain boat engines?

motorcycle guy here

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000970&forum_id=2#36239093)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 3:20 PM
Author: Muscadine wine

Take the boat to a boat mechanic, preferably someone with Yamaha school certifications. They are complicated and require a computer hook up.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000970&forum_id=2#36239126)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 3:51 PM
Author: Royall Jenkins

One of the big differences between boat engines and motorcycle/car engines is how their throttles operate. With 99% of recreational boats, the throttle is controlled by a lever beside the driver. The operator moves the lever to open up the throttle to the desired level, and the engine continues to run at that level until the throttle is moved. This results in people running engines for extended periods of time at the exact same RPM. This is bad for engines, especially during the break-in period.

The manner in which the throttle operates, in conjunction with other circumstances surrounding the operation of the boat, also leads many people to run their engines wide open for extended periods of time.

Last, again for a multitude of reasons, people tend to overlook scheduled maintenance for boats.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000970&forum_id=2#36239341)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 2:43 PM
Author: IronMonkey

I got lucky buying a cheap used boat with an old motoer that works pretty well, and finding a cheap mechanic who gets the jobs done without breaking the bank.

I also don't head out to deep water or anything, so if I've got to use my kicker motor to get back somewhere, it'll suck, but it's not life threatening.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000970&forum_id=2#36238810)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 2:45 PM
Author: Muscadine wine

Sounds sweet. What kind of boat?

Also, kicker motors are 100% CR

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000970&forum_id=2#36238830)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 2:50 PM
Author: IronMonkey

16.5 ft riveted aluminum Smokercraft Spitfire with an old Yamaha 90hp 2 stroke. It came with a 4hp 2-stroke kicker but I already had a 2hp Honda 4 stroke that I use instead. Looks like (but isn't) this one: http://www.thesaltydog.com/uploads/3562273a.jpg

I'd like to upgrade to a 18ft with 4 stroke main and more powerful 4-stroke kicker. Something like an Alumaweld Talon maybe. But we just bought a new car, so that's probably not happening in the near future.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000970&forum_id=2#36238876)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 3:06 PM
Author: Muscadine wine

Nice find. I bet you have a blast in that thing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000970&forum_id=2#36239023)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 3:14 PM
Author: IronMonkey

It's fun. Good for lake/inshore/lower river fishing and crabbing. It would be sweet to get a jet pump to go up higher in rivers, but I don't think that's on the agenda. It's a bit cramped when there's more than two full grown adults in it if you're actually trying to fish.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000970&forum_id=2#36239074)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 1:29 PM
Author: .,.,,..,..,.,.,:,,:,...,:;:,...,:,.,.:..:.,:.::,.


What are you gonna use the boat for? Just pleasure cruising? Fresh or salt water? Planning to do water sports?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000970&forum_id=2#36238300)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 1:33 PM
Author: Muscadine wine

OK, a couple things:

1. Budget 10% of the cost of the boat for gas, repairs/ upkeep & storage. I spent 25k on my boat, and I fill it up about 6 time a year (at 130+ a fill) and spend an average of 1k a year in maintenance and to repair shit (radio, bimini, etc.) My house is on a big lot (lol poors) so I have space to store the boat at my house, so I get a break there.

2. Research where you're going to put your boat. I keep it at my house, but if not, it would be an additional $1200 a year for storage.

3. In terms of what boat to get, figure out what you're going to do. If you fish, it's center console or bust. If you're just going to cruise, dual console or a deck boat might work.

Be even more specific - if you're going to plan to spend time past the beaches in the ocean, you want a deep V. If you're going to stay in the bay, a bay boat or even a skiff works great.

4. Don't be pressured to get a bigger boat with with a bigger motor. I have an 18 ft. with a 115 and it's plenty for what I need and I regularly go 5-10 miles past the beaches. However, I have a deep v center console so it;s built to withstand some rough stuff.

5. Look to see what people tend to own. Around me, 18-22 foot center consoles are what everyone owns, and the reason is the functionality. In Miami, my guess is that deck boats and dual consoles are probably really popular.

6. If you don't over spend, you won't feel obligated to use it every weekend.

7. Don't do a "starter boat." After a season, you'll have most of the knowledge you'll need to do whatever you want, so there's no point in getting a piece of shit and then trying to dump it.

8. If I was going to buy a boat, I would try to get one of these:

http://www.seahuntboats.com/ultra-211.html

http://www.keywestboatsinc.com/boats/show/id/53

http://pioneerboats.com/sportfish202.html

Also, Yamaha motors or nothing.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000970&forum_id=2#36238323)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 1:50 PM
Author: Royall Jenkins

I knew Yamaha had a huge lead at one point on the competition with their four-stroke outboards. Has Mercury not caught up?

I have always had an itch for a 30 foot catamaran with 3 or 4 high performance outboards hanging off the back of it. One day . . .

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000970&forum_id=2#36238458)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 1:55 PM
Author: Muscadine wine

Suzuki and Mercury have gotten better, but Yamaha still makes the most reliable motors. Yamaha 150s are the motor in terms of reliability and performance. Also, if you’re gonna do a big motor, Yamaha just solved some engineering problems and came out with 400s, which from what I understand people absolutely love

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000970&forum_id=2#36238494)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 2:09 PM
Author: IronMonkey

I've heard some bad things about Suzuki recently. Hondas are a good consideration as well.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000970&forum_id=2#36238594)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 2:10 PM
Author: Muscadine wine

They’re all better than Johnsons,, a.k.a. Black anchors

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000970&forum_id=2#36238604)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 1:58 PM
Author: Muscadine wine

Lastly, gas efficiency is a giant deal, I cannot tell you how much I enjoy my 115 - I can run that thing for 100 miles and not have to worry about refueling. Cost of gas is a enormous aspect of boat owners.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000970&forum_id=2#36238512)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 2:02 PM
Author: Royall Jenkins

Especially if you are not storing your boat at home.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000970&forum_id=2#36238534)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 2:09 PM
Author: Muscadine wine

These are the kind of things that make boats more expensive than they need to be.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000970&forum_id=2#36238588)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 2:33 PM
Author: grand arbre

tyft

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000970&forum_id=2#36238730)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 2:48 PM
Author: bowlcut autist

180 ty for this scholarship

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000970&forum_id=2#36238862)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 2:57 PM
Author: Muscadine wine

no problem

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000970&forum_id=2#36238937)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 2:55 PM
Author: Baron Mark von Ironside



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000970&forum_id=2#36238926)



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Date: June 14th, 2018 1:17 AM
Author: InTheZone



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000970&forum_id=2#36242734)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 2:04 PM
Author: Taylor Swift was not a hobby she was a lifestyle



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000970&forum_id=2#36238540)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 2:52 PM
Author: ~~(>' ' )>

They're fun, but not so good for when you want to relax.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000970&forum_id=2#36238901)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 2:26 PM
Author: and when i started to squeeze the bar brother (http://youtu.be/sqLsqHctThU)

Just get a used motor boat or fishing boat and keep it at your house.

or one of those little.aluminum fishing boats

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000970&forum_id=2#36238701)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 2:37 PM
Author: Non sequitur

zo is retarded as usual

if you know anything about boat repair, or more likely know someone who does or at least a reliable repair place, it's fine. i have several friends who own boats and none of them really think it's a money pit. obviously do ur diligence during purchase and get it carefully checked out by ppl who know what they're doing. also keep in mind mooring/recurring fees

lol @ the poa who said they dont like feeling obligated to use it - shocking that xo poa dont enjoy hanging out on a lake drinking beer with friends and/or family on a nice weekend and don't seek to maximize those opportunities

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000970&forum_id=2#36238757)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 2:40 PM
Author: Royall Jenkins

Agreed. And if you want to get all XO with this, there are worse things one can do for their career than becoming the "fun guy with a boat."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000970&forum_id=2#36238778)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 2:41 PM
Author: IronMonkey

I love owning a boat, but they definitely have high money pit potential. But I found a relatively cheap, but reliable boat mechanic guy, and I got a cheap used boat that I can beat up to begin with.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000970&forum_id=2#36238781)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 2:44 PM
Author: Royall Jenkins

As Muscadine Wine and I hinted at above, one of the absolutely essential aspects to keeping costs of ownership down for a boat is to have a convenient means of pulling it out of the water (obviously this pertains to small and medium sized boats). If you must leave your boat docked and rely on a service to pull your boat, you are left with on the water services that don't have a month or more wait list, which usually means you are using the dealership. Shit gets real expensive in those situations.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000970&forum_id=2#36238822)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 2:46 PM
Author: Muscadine wine

Yea, one thing I didn't mention is that you really should have a truck that is capable of trailering your boat.

Not a problem over here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000970&forum_id=2#36238839)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 2:52 PM
Author: grand arbre

OP here, i regularly tow my legal files and stuff to court behind my gmc canyon diesel. i would store boat in my yard

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000970&forum_id=2#36238894)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 2:54 PM
Author: Muscadine wine

If driving a truck is wrong, I don't want to be right.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000970&forum_id=2#36238917)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 2:56 PM
Author: IronMonkey

Yeah, that's one reason why I went with a small aluminum boat. I can tow it no problem with with a 4-cylinder Jeep Patriot.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000970&forum_id=2#36238930)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 3:22 PM
Author: SPACE FORCE

:(

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000970&forum_id=2#36239141)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 3:24 PM
Author: IronMonkey

???



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000970&forum_id=2#36239157)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 2:52 PM
Author: IronMonkey

Oh yeah. I keep my boat on a trailer. I'd love to have it moored somewhere at least part of the year for convenience, but I'm a cheap bastard and the best places have waiting lists.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000970&forum_id=2#36238900)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 2:56 PM
Author: Muscadine wine

I have a shared dock in my neighborhood that I can keep my boat at for a few weeks at a time, but I don't have the bottom treated so the barnacles fuck my shit up when I leave it in for more than a week.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000970&forum_id=2#36238933)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 3:08 PM
Author: Royall Jenkins

I keep my boat docked on the lake, but I also have a trailer and a truck capable of pulling it, which has been very convenient when I have had needed to have work done on the boat.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000970&forum_id=2#36239033)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 2:42 PM
Author: Muscadine wine

Mooring fees? lol are you going to swim out to your boat? Also, how many lawyers do you know who are capable to service a modern outboard? You need a fucking computer just to do the diagnostic.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000970&forum_id=2#36238794)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 2:57 PM
Author: IronMonkey

I think he means moorage fees at a marina.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000970&forum_id=2#36238941)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 3:04 PM
Author: Muscadine wine

I thought he meant this:

https://www.dnr.wa.gov/sites/default/files/pictures/aqr/aqr_mooring_buoy.jpg?3dgj51xlxr



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000970&forum_id=2#36238996)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 5:38 PM
Author: IronMonkey

I've actually thought about putting one of those in near my mother-in-law's place, but it doesn't really make sense.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000970&forum_id=2#36240114)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 3:05 PM
Author: Non sequitur

yes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000970&forum_id=2#36239006)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 2:54 PM
Author: Baron Mark von Ironside

>> lol @ the poa who said they dont like feeling obligated to use it - shocking that xo poa dont enjoy hanging out on a lake drinking beer with friends and/or family on a nice weekend and don't seek to maximize those opportunities <<

i do so many other things that i wouldn't want to feel obligated to use a boat every nice weekend. one day a month would be fine for me, hence why i personally would never buy a boat.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000970&forum_id=2#36238911)



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Date: June 14th, 2018 2:32 AM
Author: 1920 North Side Mick Gangster (Dead ringer for Family Guy's Mort Goldman minus a hundred pounds)

lmao really gunning for :D's MFE title

nobody knows jack shit about boat repair besides very mechanically inclined dudes. it isn't like a car where it's trivially easy to learn how to do lots of stuff yourself. when a boat has issues you have to crack open the engine and figure out what the fuck is going on, *and* have a location where you can actually do this.

your friends probably have boats they stuff in a marina and take out on the flat water maybe 6 saturdays or sundays a year. people ITT are talking about actually using your boat on a regular basis, which will get expensive because your boat is going to fucking break at some point if you use it a decent amount. boats aren't cars, there haven't been nearly as dramatic strides in reliability over the decades.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000970&forum_id=2#36242959)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 2:45 PM
Author: ~~(>' ' )>

Buy used.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000970&forum_id=2#36238834)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 2:48 PM
Author: Muscadine wine

https://charleston.craigslist.org/boa/d/1992-hydra-sport-2000dc/6603571140.html

I will pour out a beer for the monument they build in the harbor for our Pumos lost at sea.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000970&forum_id=2#36238863)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 2:56 PM
Author: ~~(>' ' )>

I'm a fresh water man.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000970&forum_id=2#36238929)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 2:58 PM
Author: Baron Mark von Ironside

i always lol at how attractive the wives are in every one of the SeaRay pictures. they certainly are selling the dream

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000970&forum_id=2#36238948)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 3:01 PM
Author: IronMonkey

This guy is probably just a covert marketing campaign by the boat industry: http://www.captainstabbin.com/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000970&forum_id=2#36238972)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 3:15 PM
Author: Baron Mark von Ironside

180 but where's the original Captain?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000970&forum_id=2#36239088)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 4:02 PM
Author: ~~(>' ' )>

Do you think I can make it big in porn product placement?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000970&forum_id=2#36239409)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 3:12 PM
Author: Royall Jenkins

There is a tiny bit of truth to those adds. I live a couple hours a way from a lake with a very large recreational boating scene. The talent on the cruisers is insane, especially if you are into to 40+ year old women who are working hard to keep it together and succeeding look, which I know you are.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000970&forum_id=2#36239062)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 3:13 PM
Author: Baron Mark von Ironside

OFS, though a lot of that is just the affluence of the people involved and not necessarily bc of the boat

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000970&forum_id=2#36239072)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 3:04 PM
Author: Dick Trickle, RIP

OP, is your reason for getting a boat just so you can take advantage of the implication?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000970&forum_id=2#36239005)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 3:10 PM
Author: grand arbre

no i live three hundred yards from the bay and there is a launch two miles away and I want to spend less time indoors. i genuinely want to just chill out on the water. but im not rich so have to think about this.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000970&forum_id=2#36239051)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 3:21 PM
Author: Muscadine wine

One of the few regrets in life I have was not buying a boat sooner, and especially not buying a boat when I was single.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000970&forum_id=2#36239137)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 3:46 PM
Author: Dick Trickle, RIP

Because of the implication?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000970&forum_id=2#36239289)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 3:51 PM
Author: Muscadine wine

It's not dark, you're misunderstanding me.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000970&forum_id=2#36239347)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 3:54 PM
Author: Dick Trickle, RIP

I would never say no, bro.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000970&forum_id=2#36239365)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 3:54 PM
Author: Muscadine wine

You look around, all you see it the open ocean, I mean where are you going to go?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000970&forum_id=2#36239369)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 3:55 PM
Author: Dick Trickle, RIP

So you're saying there's danger?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000970&forum_id=2#36239375)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 3:25 PM
Author: biglaw associate asking if link is worksafe @ 11pm (LM95)

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dE-nfzcUiPk

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000970&forum_id=2#36239169)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 3:29 PM
Author: IronMonkey

classic

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000970&forum_id=2#36239191)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 3:46 PM
Author: Dick Trickle, RIP

ROFL

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000970&forum_id=2#36239298)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 4:02 PM
Author: Royall Jenkins

LOL, I love that video. I was behind that boat when it happened and was the first person on the scene.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000970&forum_id=2#36239413)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 4:05 PM
Author: IronMonkey

not flame?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000970&forum_id=2#36239434)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 4:16 PM
Author: Royall Jenkins

Not flame, brother.

I kind of feel bad for the guy. He wasn't doing anything especially retarded, with the exception of going a little too fast, but that is common enough. The guy was very unlucky in how he caught a few very large waves thrown up by large cruisers (it was very rough that day, as it almost always is on busy weekends and holidays).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000970&forum_id=2#36239524)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 3:46 PM
Author: mothergentle caresser

Smells like whatever the chill fratty wasp equivalent of duck sauce in here

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000970&forum_id=2#36239290)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 3:48 PM
Author: Muscadine wine

Yuengling? Sperry Topsiders?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000970&forum_id=2#36239316)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 3:48 PM
Author: IronMonkey

Bearnaise sauce? Cocktail sauce?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000970&forum_id=2#36239319)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 3:49 PM
Author: Dick Trickle, RIP

Banana Boat?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000970&forum_id=2#36239330)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 4:01 PM
Author: this nigga eating memes!

you ought to buy a boat

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000970&forum_id=2#36239408)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 4:02 PM
Author: Royall Jenkins



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000970&forum_id=2#36239415)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 4:17 PM
Author: Muscadine wine

To summarize this thread: buy a boat.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000970&forum_id=2#36239546)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 8:49 PM
Author: ~~(>' ' )>

https://austin.craigslist.org/boa/d/ft-houseboat/6602914999.html

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000970&forum_id=2#36241248)